I posted on Richard Dawkins’ new book a couple days ago, though I hadn’t read it, and still haven’t, and still don’t plan to. John Wilkins has started it though, and as a philosopher of science and thinker-at-large, he understandably has a few words on the subject, notably on Dawkins’ treatment of the concept of God, and definitions of agnosticism and atheism.
All in all, I appreciate, and am glad to read, John’s post, although I disagree with several important points in it. But really, I’d rather disagree with someone who has a commitment to enthusiastic and well-grounded thinking and living, than simply associating with someone who rotely agrees with me but doesn’t know why. Because really, rote knowledge isn’t knowledge at all, it’s just training or programming. Change the context just one little bit, and the plodding rote-man will be out to sea, without any hope of a map to land. An active thinker, though he may be wrong on many counts, retains the ability to navigate from any position, and the possibility of acquiring the all-weather compass (of good concepts, good approach, good philosophy) remains open to him.
Of course, it’s possible to disagree with a kindred spirit on so many points that gratifying or productive interaction becomes impossible. At which point I think it’s better to wish him best of luck and proceed on our independent merry ways, than to associate with someone out of habit or duty or laziness or fear of change. That’s an insult to both parties, and regardless of my valuation of the other person, I value myself and my time too highly to permanantly put up with a spiritual dead-weight. In the end, it boils down to priorities, ordering of priorities, and magnitude of priorities, as always.
But I digress…
Of course, in any topic where the discussion gallops into the territory of epistemology and metaphysics, I have extreme difficulty keeping my trap shut, even though I’m still in the process of learning myself. But, I honestly think I’m far more right than wrong at this point, and in any case, the practice does me worlds of good. I’ve noticed that I write far better when I’m responding to the specific claims of someone, rather than trying to pull my generalizations out of thin air. So, permit me to quote my comment on John’s post - and proceed to alienate and offend upwards of 90% of people I know. Such is the cost - the traded value - of intellectual integrity, and I don’t say that sniffily or snobbily. I mean it with all sincerety, because it’s the root of honesty, and the result of full rationality - and that, in my view, is the string by which an individual’s life and happiness hang, and so it goes for all people everywhere. There is an aweful lot at stake, and two rational, honest people who disagree are a far safer combination than two irrational people, regardless of their agreement.
[Update, 10/27/06: The comments thread on John’s post has soured me on the whole discussion. I spose that’s the risk and result of a popular blog: what starts off as a managable collection of disagreements and points of interest, spirals out into the hinterlands of philosophy and the morass of views that just lead nowhere. Welll, by "nowhere" I mean a mental place where no thoughts are possible. Kind of like shipwrecking on an island of cannibals. If this is the mess I’d have to put up with, and cordially tolerate in order to eventually refute, if I were to do academic philosophy - then I’ll have none of it. Bickering scientists are immensely more sensible and integrated between the ears. The conceptual cancer of academic philosophy hasn’t touched their healthy minds.
But, to task now:
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Pardon an amateur’s interjection here, Davis, but if one can’t be certain that God does not exist, it puts atheists in a mighty risky metaphysical position - one which opens the door to Pascal’s wager, and enabling the half-hearted theism of millions or billions worldwide. If atheism claims that the non-existence of God is uncertain knowledge, then anyone claiming to possess a method for (some kind of) certainty has an edge, logical, philosophical, valid or not - and in a world of poorly or uneducated billions, it’s no-contest between unevaluated certainty and unevaluated uncertainty when the whole of existence is at stake. (I say unevaluated to suggest that most theists do not or cannot bother themselves with the nature of certainty). Is this the best humanity can hope for, given the nature of things, and the nature of philosophy and logic and knowledge? I don’t think so.
To me, the whole question of the existence of supernatural-anythings boils down to a question of concept validity. We have loads of concepts, and among more mundane concepts, we recognize valid ones and invalid ones. Bunnies vs. Easter bunnies, chemistry vs. alchemy. Is the same possible for less mundane concepts? Yes. It’s all a question of standards for knowledge. And these standards are prior to the more specific questions and topics of science, so I’d agree with John (and others) who say that you can’t refute God on the basis of science. Quantum theory or evolution or materials science will never, in principle, touch the concept of God, though they can be co-opted willy-nilly once the God decision has been made.
But you can refute God with what underlies science - that is, with standards of knowledge. The standards then determine what is a valid concept, and what isn’t, no matter how abstract or grandiose it claims to be. So, for example, if Nature is existence regarded as a system of interconnected entities governed by law, that is, acting and interacting in accordance with their identities - then the supernatural is a form of existence beyond existence - one or more things beyond entity-hood - a something beyond identity.
How then, would you know it? You can’t. All knowledge is ultimately derived from perceived reality (developmentally and logically), and the regularities perceived or discovered in it, in which entities convey their identities. Any concept that invalidates that which is perceptually self-evident (i.e. I am conscious; existence *is*), is itself invalid. If we give it validity, out of generosity or laziness or ignorance, then we have severed the tie between consciousness and reality, the single tie that makes consciousness possible and powerful (although, philosophically, this is highly secondary to the previous sentence). Any jump of imagination or conceptualization beyond what is correct is certainly possible - but imagination is by itself no basis for knowledge, obviously.
I used to have an extremely strong and clear concept of God (and many other souls, since I was Catholic). Strength of vision is not, as Descartes would have it, proof or certainty or a statement about reality beyond your meninges.
So: I think certainty IS possible - within a specified context. (I hold a-contextual certainty to also be an invalid concept). And here I’m specifying as context all my perceptual experiences, and those of all other people whose knowledge and perspectives are available to me. This great summation of concretes we can extend to infinity, like an integral - the sum of all human experience, from zero to infinity (infinity being an epistemological concept, not a metaphysical statement).
Within this context, which is the widest possible context and the basis for all concepts and all knowledge, the very concept of God (or ghosts or gremlins or goblins) is in contradiction to the nature of reality; the concept "God" is defined in opposition to the nature of reality - in opposition to existence and identity. God is "beyond nature," "beyond knowing," "beyond existence." I.e. if there is such a thing (which is impossible), you can’t know it - you can’t form the concept, because you’re data-less, and you always will be. And if it’s not true - if God is knowable, he’s knowable by virtue of certain means, i.e. by some kind of identity, and identity is only possible to things which exist, and things which exist are part of nature, and behave in accordance with their identity - nothing that exists can flout the laws of existence. Such a being (for it would no longer qualify for the concept of "God") would be yet another thing amenable to study, in principle, even if the logistics don’t pan out.
So if God is knowable, he’s not all-that. And if he’s all-that, he’s not knowable. This is the hallmark of an invalid concept, and not the dark alleyways of esoteric "truth" pushed by wizents in-the-know, be they saints, buddahs, philosophers, or the loony with the Jesus sandwich board spouting gibberish on the corner of Telegraph Ave. (You know the one). By studying ALL that is available to us, we’ll never get to a valid concept of God. You’ve always got to fudge the data, drop context, reverse cause and effect to arrive at the concept of God. That’s fine for the movies, but if you seek knowledge with traction on the world (sign me up!), the concept of God is self-inflicted black ice, to greater or lesser severity. And if a concept is bad - by honest error or malicious perfidy - it has no business making proclamations about the nature of reality.
Thus I am, for one, an atheist who is certain that God does not exist.
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